Tavis Smiley on Loving (and Missing) Maya Angelou Read (INTERVIEW-EBONY)

The veteran journalist discusses his new book on his friendship with the late icon for EBONY magazine.

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For nearly 30 years, Tavis Smiley was able to call a woman who the world knew as an American icon, activist, and leading literary voice, simply “Mother Maya.” His friendship with Maya Angelou formed after a surprising invitation to accompany she and a group of friends to Africa, essentially to carry luggage. Tavis spoke with EBONY as he embarks on a book tour for his newly released book, My Journey With Maya,  in which he shares life lessons, counsel, and inspirations the late heroine lovingly imparted in him. Here he speaks on how Angelou made him a better journalist and how he felt when she told him to be easier on a certain politician.

EBONY: Essentially, this is not a book about Maya Angelou’s life, but more of a coming-of-age and self-discovery story on how Dr. Angelou shaped your life.

Tavis Smiley: I always point out this is the story of MY relationship with her. There are many people who admired and revered her from afar but never had the chance to know what she was like up close. I hope this book [will] take people inside her world and that you get a chance to see how generous, how charitable, how loving, how open, how warm, how witty, and how funny she was. I hope the book allows readers to access some of that.

EBONY: At 22, you were given the opportunity to accompany world-renown activist and legendary author, Maya Angelou, to Africa. How did that experience shape the rest of your life?  

TS: What do you say about being a kid in your 20s and you have an opportunity to accompany Maya Angelou, to Africa, for 2 weeks. I went to carry her bags, however she did not allow that to prevent a friendship from forming.

When I ran for city council and lost I didn’t know what was next, I had no clue what to do next in my life, the trip to Africa with Maya Angelou; was the moment that allowed me to realize, I had so much to do and  so much to live for. On that trip not only am I meeting Maya Angelou, I’m meeting Stokely Carmichael, Miriam Makeba and the great historian, John H. Clarke, meeting all these iconic American and African figures in the diaspora.

Before I heard of Barack Obama, I’m meeting a black president named Jerry John Rawlings, President of Ghana, staying at the presidential palace. [The trip] affirmed that I had a role to play in my own life. This experience allowed me to come back and find my voice once I returned from Africa. That’s why the book started with that trip, because it was such a defining moment in my life and the start to my relationship with Maya Angelou.

EBONY: During the your trip, before the friendship formed, Maya said to you, “If from time to time I seem to be looking through your eyes, that’s only because I want to have as fresh a view as possible.” This phenomenal activist and intellectual took an interest in not only you, but expressed how she much she regarded the youth.  

TS: She was interested in what I thought and what mattered to me. She is a world class intellectual, and I’m a teenager, [she’s] inviting me to disagree with her, challenge her, and to interrogate her. It’s not often the case that young black men are engaged in that way, people [having] a genuine curiosity about what you think, what you feel, what you believe and how you see the world. The confidence that it built in me, that Maya Angelou cared about what I thought, and she’s allowed me to articulate what I thought, that was confidence boost and builder like I’ve never had in my life. By the time I got back to America, I didn’t know what was next but I knew I had the confidence to pull it off.


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Somali Author Nuruddin Farah Speaks Truth to Power [INTERVIEW-EBONY]

Touching on female genital mutilation, dictatorships and more, one of Africa’s leading literary voices discusses the troubles and inspiration of his homeland

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The current images of Somalia are those of a country ravaged by a 22-year dictatorship and perpetual civil war. Yet through 12 books and countless essays centered on Somalia, author Nuruddin Farah has refuted those images of his homeland and solidified his place as one of Africa’s leading literary voices. EBONY spoke with the global activist and educator on how he keeps Somalia alive through his writing.

EBONY: Growing up in Somalia, books were not easily accessible. At what point did your interest in literature pique despite not having books at your fingertips?

Nuruddin Farah: Books for children specifically and books in general were not available. I had to read whatever books my older brother could lay his hands on. I was between 9 and 11 years old, and I had difficulties understanding many of the words. It was my brother’s idea to give me thick books, to decrease the amount of mischief I could get into.

EBONY: So early on you were introduced to authors and stories from around the world. How did that exposure influence you?

NF: I discovered that the Russians were writing about Russia and the French were writing about the French. So early on in my life I thought, wouldn’t it be necessary to write down stories in which Somali names—children’s names and parents’—would appear.

EBONY: Initially, it was impossible for you to tell your stories in Somalian. How did you move away from the oral tradition?

NF: In a way, tragically I could not [write] in Somali, my mother tongue. Somalia had no standardized script, so one could not write in Somalian.

I would be the first one to move away from [the oral tradition] but [not] completely. I go to the oral tradition quite often; it’s a treasure I borrow [from] and informs a great deal of the writing. I love the oral tradition, but I think one must transcend it, because the only person who can hear you is the person in front of you.

EBONY: How does the cosmopolitan Somalia you grew up in compare to present day Somalia?

NF: Things are terrible [with] the continued absence of the basic necessities in Somalia—in terms of education, in terms of health, in terms of peace, in terms of economic, in terms of everything. The Somali-speaking peninsula of the world is lacking far behind our brethren and sistren in the other neighboring countries.

The tragedy of Somalia is, they have been given a life of discontinuity for the past two decades, and that has affected them mentally, psychologically, educationally and socially.

EBONY: You were exiled for 22 years from Somalia under the regime of dictator Mohamed Siad Barre. Yet despite being forced out and living in numerous locations—India, South Africa, the United States—your writing primarily centers on Somali. What keeps that fire burning for you?  

NF: Whenever I have written an article about other countries, people remind me I’m a Somalian. Even [though] Somalis don’t think I write in their view. They don’t like criticism [and] people telling them, “Look, you’re mucking up the situation, you can do better than this.”

My first novel, From a Crooked Rib, got me into trouble. They said, “Why are you telling the world that we treat our women badly?”

I was only 22, and the only thing I could see was that women were being treated quite badly. Therefore, I wrote about societal dictatorship—[where] within the society are the patriarchs and the matriarchs? A country makes [it] possible for a dictatorship to come rule the country. My argument is, if the people were a reconstructed people, tolerant of one another, willing to listen, more liberal in their views, we would not have suffered the tyranny of a dictator who ruled the country for [22] years.

EBONY: From Elba in From a Crooked Rib to Hiding in Plain Sight’s Bella, you write about women in charge of their own destinies. How do you respond to being called the “Somali feminist” in a region where it’s unheard of for a man to be a feminist?

NF: My intentions [are] to show that many Somali women are strong despite [a] society [that] pushes the women to the margin and disenfranchises women. Despite this, it’s thanks to the consistent hard work in Somali women that Somali society has continued to exist.

Somali men often engage in [clan] politics. “I am this and I am that and my clan family is that.” This doesn’t help society. Somali women are the ones who have kept the country, and its people survive the greatest odds. They held their heads high and worked very hard to make sure there was food on the table. Some of them had to endure the fact that they had to prostitute their bodies to be able for their families to survive.

I raise my hat to the women, and I say to the men, “damn you! You haven’t done anything.”


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